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The nature of repairs and disclosure

There was a discussion on the Stationary Engine Mailing List which basically came down to the types of repairs judged by some to be unacceptable, and disclosure on sale... This article is my response to a mixture of the response from members of the list.
I hate to see an obviously cobbled-together repair done by an "engine man"
"to get the engine running" and then taken out to a show in that
condition.  If, through an excess of excitement he does it at home, fine.
Don't show it that way.  I'm thinking of something like visegrips
or bailing wire holding parts together.  What he does in the privacy of
his engine shed is his own business, but keep it private.
Nothing wrong with baling wire... I've made repairs at shows with baling wire - the farmer did it, why shouldn't I? I do usually make a point of fixing it later when I get home more permanently (says he thinking of the Rosebery where the big end bearing is held together with baling wire, and has been for years... doh!)
On the issue of preserving an "original blacksmith's repair" I'm in favor
of that.  BUT, we owe it to the viewing public to point out that what they
see is a repair of necessity and not the way the engine came from the
factory.

That just comes down to character, I try to produce a character background for each engine I'm showing - in this sort of case I detail the repair.

As to repairs made in the course of an engine's mechanical restoration,
I'm in favor of both authenticity and expedience.  The idea of using JB
Weld to repair defects in a bore is fine by me rather than go through the
risk and expense of boring and sleeving.  If the JB Weld "repair" doesn't
do the job you can always fall back on boring and sleeving.

I concur with this, if something modern can do the job and save you a bucket of money, then you have a bucket of money to rescue another engine (or perhaps treat your loved ones to something since you spent the last bucket of money on an engine :)

I do feel VERY strongly about full disclosure when you sell an engine.  We
all have names for the jerks who "improve compression" of an engine
they're selling by putting a squash ball on top of the piston.  Fortunatly
none of us are scum like that.  But there are guys like that "out there"
in engine land.

Absolutely, most of you know the saga I've had with my Ottawa - the bulk of my problems have come down to the previous owners ineptitude or dishonesty. I'm not going to say which because I don't care that much, but if I had known what I know now then, I would probably have not bought the engine, or would have paid much less for it. He used thick paint to cover up cracks in the flywheels. The bearings were rooted. The grease lines were all blocked. The conrod was bent. Everything that could be loose on the engine was. The timing setup was all wrong. One of the rings was broken. The head is in a terrible state with poor expoxy repairs - so good on the outside that I did not suspect a giant freeze crack. I've since remade the repair with J-B and it is pretty good. Curt Andree sent me some poly weld rods to make the repair more permanent (THANKS CURT!!)
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This article is part of the Stationary Internal Combustion Engine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ). This series is a combination of my views and knowledge and the views and knowledge of other people - most of them members of the Stationary Engine Mailing List (More info on ATIS). Those articles which were written by others are © Copyright to the author. Those articles written by myself are © Copyright to Paul Pavlinovich.

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